tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1509900465677846838.post3358598673661230212..comments2020-10-02T23:38:15.144-04:00Comments on NAS Confusion: This is Normaldeltamike172http://www.blogger.com/profile/03440111329857048591noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1509900465677846838.post-58949312251770326732010-02-06T17:15:41.379-05:002010-02-06T17:15:41.379-05:00LRod,
What type of aircraft has the ability to fl...LRod,<br /><br />What type of aircraft has the ability to fly 400(KIAS)? That would be a new one to me? TYAS maybe, but indicated? Was this military? And you "assigned " this? Just curious.......Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1509900465677846838.post-1290853847417329882010-01-29T08:59:53.006-05:002010-01-29T08:59:53.006-05:00funny - perfect unexpected laugh - I came in for a...funny - perfect unexpected laugh - I came in for a look at the VOR from the ground shot -DeAnnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09476048474730678421noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1509900465677846838.post-68707343921263447312010-01-13T00:18:50.093-05:002010-01-13T00:18:50.093-05:00This isn't your part of the country but I thin...This isn't your part of the country but I think it applies to what you're saying. I fly in and out of Atlanta and to fly our regional jets efficiently (CRJ) the company sometimes has us fly fast and sometimes they have us fly slow depending on (among other things) the price of gas. Anyway, one day we're buzzing along at 260 knots since we're early and saving gas when ATL Center speeds us up to 310 for spacing. After he gets his 40 in trail (or whatever it was) that he needs he says "resume normal speed" so we pull it back to 260. About a minute later asks us why we slowed back down and reassigns a speed with great haste. It's a battle we'll continue to fight but for the most part we're just trying to help and not cause a fuss when we answer that way...remember we get paid by the hour too.Brendan M.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1509900465677846838.post-79176251456162632652010-01-12T11:41:12.268-05:002010-01-12T11:41:12.268-05:00I suppose I should add to the non-aviation folk ou...I suppose I should add to the non-aviation folk out there, that the speeds have come down alot in recent years due to the cost of fuel. Airlines tell their pilots to fly really, really, really slow and they are only allowed to speed up if ATC says they need it... <br /><br />There is an Air Canada flight that flies the YYZ-BOS flight at Mach .62 in an E190. That's great and all, but I either have to speed him up to .78 to keep him in front of the all the west coast 757s that come in at the same time...or I vector the crap out of him to make him last...but that doesn't really save gas, now does it.deltamike172https://www.blogger.com/profile/03440111329857048591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1509900465677846838.post-83637692356590831742010-01-12T11:37:10.440-05:002010-01-12T11:37:10.440-05:00Lrod,
ATL was pretty awesome, good times all aroun...Lrod,<br />ATL was pretty awesome, good times all around. Great wedding.<br /><br />The only speeds that are the same day in and day out are the Jetlinks that always fly 315 and the Southwests that transition to 261...yes...they put out a memo saying 261...not 262...<br /><br />If there is chop I generally won't assign over 290, but I know they can all go 310-320 without questions if its smooth. Now that I think about it, I generally ask these "what do you transition to" questions to the bizjets going to HPN, since it always varies alot. Again, If the G5 wants 340, and the Hawker wants 290, well, how about 310 or 320 then. I like making no-one happy, I guess.<br /><br />DM<br /><br />PS. The next sector usually will call and tell us "slow him to 250" since they are holding for N90...so, no sense going overboard for the 5 minutes in the descent...deltamike172https://www.blogger.com/profile/03440111329857048591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1509900465677846838.post-70528048229875896782010-01-12T02:29:14.736-05:002010-01-12T02:29:14.736-05:00Heh, heh. Sometime in the last few months I added ...Heh, heh. Sometime in the last few months I added an essay on speed control to my website. Not so much a primer as a "Speed Control for Dummies" for any lay readers I might have visiting. In it I tell about speed control in the old days (when we used the actual dinosaurs for fuel--not their fossilized remains) versus today. <br /><br />Back in the day, EA, UA, DL, TW, AA, CO would all go anywhere from 350 to 400 KIAS in their descent (from probably FL290 when they could get to it, down to probably the low teens. Yes, I have assigned 400 knots. Also back in the day, NW had a company speed restriction of 320 KIAS max. Guess who always got sequenced second?<br /><br />Nowadays, NW is a real speed merchant at 320. The youngsters practically beg a jet to do 340. Hah! 340 was the speed we used to give #4 or #5.<br /><br />In ZAU we didn't do much twenty questions about desired speeds with the pilots. We pretty much told them what we needed, although I do admit that you have to learn what they can and will (or won't) do somehow, so your story makes sense. <br /><br />In truth, though, you really only need to have that conversation a couple of times. After that, you tell them what you need for your problem which cuts down the debate by about 75%.<br /><br />How was ATL?<br /><br />LRod<br />ZJX, ORD, ZAU retired<br /><br />http://www.TheBigSkyTheory.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com